//Hand-colouring
  • Upper right: Galignani's | PLAN OF PARIS | 1827 || in oval frame: Sauve sculpt. Bottom, under the frame: le Plan écrit par Lallemand. […] Gravé par E. Collin. Rue de la Harpe 45. Dimensions: 36.5 x 46.5 cm. Armand Joseph Lallemand (French, c. 1810 - 1871) – cartographer. Charles-Étienne Collin (French, 1770 – 1840) – engraver. Étienne Collin II (French,1790 – 1852) – engraver. John Anthony Galignani (Italian, 1796 – 1873) – publisher. William Galignani (Italian, 1798 – 1882) – publisher.
  • Hand-coloured woodcut on wove paper, 409 x 280 mm; black ink stamp “5323” to reverse; attached to the sheet 487 x 320 mm. Top centre: "LE CAMP DE CHALONS."; left: "Nouvelle Imagerre d'Epinal"; right: № 452. Bottom left: "Imp lith. Pinot & Sagaire, libraires edit. à Épinal"; right: "Déposé". Image: 6-tier cartoon with captions about Napoleon III and his son Prince Imperial (Napoléon Eugène Louis Jean Joseph Bonaparte; 16 March 1856 – 1 June 1879). Le camp de Chalons Pinot & Sagaire (Épinal, 1861 – 1888) – enterprise, publisher/printer. Charles-François Pinot (French, 1817 – 1879) – publisher/printer.
  • Pictorial album of 20 hand-coloured wood engravings by Firmin Gillot after Alfred Grévin; numbered 1 to 20, bound with tissue guards in half-brown cloth over marbled boards, publisher's gilt-lettered blue wrappers preserved, purple-blueish endpapers. Front wrapper (gilt on blue): LES FILLES D'EVE | ALBUM | DE TRAVESTISSEMENTS | PLUS OU MOINS | HISTORIQUES | Par A. GRÉVIN | — | PARIS | AUX BUREAUX : DU JOURNAL AMUSANT, DES MODES PARISIENNES | DE LA TOILETTE DE PARIS ET DU PETIT JOURNAL POUR RIRE | 20. Rue Bergère. || ; Henri Plon's imprint to back wrapper. Contributors: Grevin, Alfred (French, 1827 – 1892) Gillot, Firmin (French, 1820 – 1872) Plon, Henri (French, 1806 – 1872) Ref.: Metropoliten Museum.
  • Unbound volume in publisher’s wrappers, lettered in red “FELICIA | ou | mes fredaines”, in 29.7 x 23.6 cm purple and blue diaper cloth double-slipcase with a lettered label, 52 leaves folded in half, first and last blank leaves within the wrappers, pagination: [8] 1-186 [2] [4] (200 pages total); illustrated with 20 coloured etchings after watercolours by Louis Icart (signed), plates within collation, 8 b/w tail-pieces and coloured initials; the edition enriched with an original watercolour, an etched copperplate, and two suites of plates, one in black and one in sanguine. Edition printed on thick wove paper, margins untrimmed. Title-page (purple and black): ANDRÉA DE NERCIAT | Félicia | ou | Mes fredaines | ILLUSTRÉ | DE VINGT EAUX-FORTES ORIGINALES EN COULEURS | PAR | LOUIS ICART | GEORGES GUILLOT, ÉDITEUR | 7, RUE PERRONET | PARIS || Limitation: a print run of 500 copies numbered 1 to 500 plus 30 copies “exemplaires d’artiste, numbered I to XXX, of which this is number I. Catalogue raisonné:William R. Holland (1998): pp. 152-164. Ref.: [LIB-2785.2021] William R. Holland. Louis Icart: Erotica (A Schiffer book for collectors). — Atglen, PA: Schiffer Publishing Ltd., © 1998. Printed by Joseph Zichieri (text) and Manuel Robbe (etchings). Contributors: André-Robert Andréa de Nerciat (French, 1739 – 1800) – author. Louis Icart (French, 1888 – 1950) – artist. Solange et Georges Guillot, éditeurs – publisher (7, rue Perronet, Paris) Joseph Zichieri (Grench, mid-20th century) – printer. Ateliers en taille-douce de Manuel Robbe (French, 1872 – 1936) – engraver/printer. Watercolour: Copperplate:
  • Another copy of SVFC-0745-3.2023, 395 x 290 mm; black ink stamp “5322” to reverse. Jean Charles Pellerin (French, 1756 – 1836)  
  • Description by British Museum (1865,1111.2128): "Two designs, side by side. [1] A dandy (probably a portrait), florid, whiskered, and bearded, steps jauntily from the pavement, hand extended, saying: Ah! my dear fellow — How are you? Devilish glad to see ye!— He holds a closed umbrella, ferrule erect, and wears a long tight-waisted coat to the heels, unbuttoned, tight pantaloons and spurred boots. In the middle distance, another dandy grasps the hand of a friend on horseback. Behind are houses with shop-fronts. A man raises his hat to a lady who curtseys. [2] The same dandy steps from the roadway onto the pavement, his handkerchief to his nose; he stoops, trying to conceal himself from a dandy cantering past in a cloud of dust, his eye-glass to his eye. He is without gloves, extraordinary for a dandy, and his trousers are strapped over pumps; he says: Con-found it! — Didn't expect to meet Him!! The street is otherwise empty; against the (large) houses are scaffolding and a tall ladder." Lettered with title, text within image including production details: 'Ego. delt / Etched by G. Ck / Pubby J Fairburn Broadway Ludgate Hill August 18 1826'. Dimensions: Sheet: 25.5 x 36 cm, Image: 21.7 x 33.8 cm. Catalogue raisonné: A. M. Cohn (1924): № 1001, p. 262.: "A wretched plate. Difficult to believe G. C. had anything to do with it." — Bruton. Value.— £1.
  • A series of seven political caricatures with indecent content, ink and pigment on paper, bound in a grey-blue folder. Each drawing is pasted to a grey-blue sheet of paper 32 x 24 cm. PLATES: 1) Villette; Bazaine; Alvarez Rull: 250 x 192 mm
    Villette Adieu, cher maréchal, je réponds de mon dard C’est un morceau d’acier… Là bas, sur le rempart, Sa cartouche à la main, dans un cul qui le charme, Lançant à gros bouillons son foutre de gendarme Plantin plante Delille et lui font le Caisson. Bazaine Sur ton vit de dragon Sur le nœud de Plantin, sur le cul de Delille, Je ne t’oublierai pas, Villette, adieu, je file Et je vais baiser ma femme. Alvarez Rull (à Josépha) Il ne saurait tarder, Ton epoux va venir, mais tu me fais bander, Le parfum de ton con me monte à la cervelle, Ma gaule se raidit . Josépha, la nacelle Est dans l’ obscurité, là haut, le ciel est noir, Bazaine en descendant ne peut t’ apercevoir … Pour la dernière fois, torche moi la houlette. Bazaine Eh ! là bas, du canot, j’allume une allumette!
    Villette Farewell, dear Marshal, I vouch for my dick. It’s like a steel rod … Over there, on the ramparts, Plantin, his dick in hand, pounds Delisle’s beckoning ass And fills it with his bubbling gendarme’s cum. Bazaine For your dragoon’s dick, For Plantin's prick, for Delisle's ass, I won't forget you, Villette, goodbye, I'm leaving And I'm going to fuck my wife. Alvarez Rull (to Josépha) Hurry up, Your husband is coming, but I got a hard on you, The scent of your cunt penetrates my brain, My rod stiffened. Josépha, the gondola Is in the dark, the sky is black, Bazaine coming down and cannot see you... Give me one last blowjob.

    Bazaine Hey! Over there, from the canoe, I light a match!

    French marshal Achille Bazaine capitulated to Bismarck during the Franco-Prussian war on 27 October 1870. In 1873, he was tried for treason and received a death sentence, later commuted to 20 years' imprisonment. Bazaine was incarcerated in the Fort Royal on Île Sainte-Marguerite, from which he escaped on August 9–10, 1874, with the help of Colonel Villette [Willette], his wife Josefa [Pepita Peña], and her nephew Alvarez Rull. They sailed to Genoa in Italy and from there to London. Plantin and Delisle were prison guards. The story was described in detail during the Trial of Col. Villette and his Accomplices in 1874 and published later in Robert Christophe. La Vie tragique du maréchal Bazaine. — Paris: Vautrain Jacques, 1947.
    2) Impératrice Eugénie: 218 x 165 mm
    Ça, Français, mes amis, regardez sa matrice, Et quand vous aurez vu, vous serez tous certains Que le cul si vanté de votre Impératrice, N’est pas autrement fait que le cul des putains!
    That, French, my friends, look at her cunt, And when you have seen, you will all be certain That the so acclaimed ass of your Empress, Is no different than the ass of whores! 3) Napoléon III: 215 x 168 mm
    J’ai pris Paris, mon oncle a pris Berlin et Vienne. Comme lui je languis en exil …… et là bas, On abat sa colonne; Ici, je fous la mienne…. Triste et cruel retour des choses d’ici bas!! Chilshurst 1871. [i.e. Chislehurst]
    I took Paris, my uncle took Berlin and Vienna. Like him, I, too, languish in exile. His column there was demolished; I’m jerking mine off here…. Cruel and sorrowful deeds!! 4) La confession: 216 x 168 mm (Georges Darboy?) 5) Napoléon III et Thérèsa (chanteuse Désirée Emma Valladon): 216 x 176 mm
    C’est toi de tout Paris la meilleure chanteuse, Thérèsa mon enfant, chante-moi ton sapeur. C’est toi de mes Etats la meilleure fonteuse.. Thérèsa je t’en prie … Ouvre-moi ton sapeur!
    You, the best singer in all of Paris, Teresa, my child, sing for me where to insert. You are the best padding in my entire country… Teresa, please... Open your slit for me! 6) Thiers: 219 x 168 mm
    Maintenant, je me fous de votre République, Des Versaillais et des Prussiens, Aussi, tous les matins, je me branle la pique A la santé des Parisiens!
    Yes, I don’t care about your Republic now, About Versailles and the Prussians, And every morning I jerk off For the health of Parisians! 7) Émile Ollivier/Rochefort/Jules Favre/Gambetta : 212 x 168 mm
    « — Emile Ollivier, raidis bien la houlette! — Enfonce ton ringard mon petit Rochefort!! — Jules Favre mon vieux, redresse bien la tête De ton vi! — Gambetta, pousse encore plus fort!!! »
    Emile Ollivier, tighten your dick! - Stick in your poker, my little Rochefort!! - Jules Favre, old man, straighten your dickhead Damn it! – Gambetta, push even harder!!!
    Characters: Bazaine, François Achille (French, 1811 – 1888) Darboy, Georges (French, 1813 – 1871) Favre, Jules (French, 1809 – 1880) Gambetta, Léon (French, 1838 – 1882) Montijo, Eugénie de (Spanish-French, 1826 – 1920) Napoleon III [Bonaparte, Charles-Louis Napoléon] (French, 1808 – 1873) Ollivier, Émile (French, 1825 – 1913) Peña Azcárate, Josefa [Peña, Pepita] (Mexican-French, 1847 – 1900); Alvarez Rull – nephew of Josefa Peña Azcárate. Rochefort, Henri (French, 1831 – 1913) Thérésa [Valladon, Désirée Emma] (French, 1836 – 1913) Thiers, Adolphe (French, 1797 – 1877)
       
  • Hand-coloured woodcut on wove paper, 610 x 390 mm; black ink stamp “5207” to reverse, attached to a larger sheet of thick paper with a red ink stamp: “COLLECTION JEAN-CLAUD LACHNITT | REPRODUCTION INTERDIT”. Top: Baptême de S. A. le PRINCE IMPÉRIAL. 14 Juin 1856; image of baptism of Prince-Impérial; two-column text with a small loss in the lower left corner (C'est à cinq heures du soir que le cortège impérial quitta le Palais des Tuileries. De nombreux escadrons de cavalerie, musique en tête ouvraient la marche. ...); bottom under the text: "Fabrique d'Images de GANGEL, à Metz." — "49".  
  • Half-title: BARON MUNCHAUSEN Title: THE TRAVELS | AND | SURPRISING ADVENTURES | OF | BARON MUNCHAUSEN. | ILLUSTRATED WITH | THIRTY-SEVEN CURIOUS ENGRAVINGS, | FROM | THE BARON'S OWN DESIGNS, | AND FIVE WOODCUTS, | BY G. CRUIKSHANK. | [device] | LONDON : WILLIAM TEGG. | 1869.|| [RASPE, Rudolf Erich]. The Travels and Surprising Adventures of Baron Munchausen. / Illustrated with 37 curious engravings, from the Baron's own designs, and five woodcuts, by G. Cruikshank. — London: William Tegg, 1869. Pagination: xii + [10] + 268 pp, 23 plates: hand-coloured engraved frontispiece, 5 woodcuts by Cruikshank, other b/w etchings, two folding plates. Binding: 19 x 13 cm; hardbound, 8vo, early 20th century 3/4 dark plum morocco gilt-ruled, raised bands, title label, gilt lettering, gilt in compartments, top edge gilt. Catalogue raisonné: A. Cohn: #584, p. 172. This edition is an identical re-issue of the 1867 edition.
  • London: Published under the superintendence of the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge; Charles Knight & Co., no. 22 Ludgate Street. Dimensions: Sheet: 34 x 41.8 cm: Image: 28.7 x 38.3 cm. J. & C. Walker, Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge Charles Knight & Co.; Charles Knight (British, 1791 – 1873) – publisher. J & C Walker (British firm, fl. 1820 – 1895) Walker, John (British, 1787 – 1873) Walker, Alexander (British, 1797? – 1870) Walker, Charles (British, 1799? – 1872) Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge (SDUK) (British firm, 1826 – 1846)
  • Hand-coloured woodcut on wove paper, 390 x 260 mm; black ink stamp “5308” to reverse; horizontal centerfold. Centre top: "NOUVELLE IMAGERIE D'ÉPINAL BREVETÉE PAR S.M.L’EMPEREUR" with imperial eagle and coat of arms at right and left. Below: "№ 1." — "LA FAMILLE IMPÉRIALE"; image in frame; under the image, left: "Imp lith. Pinot & Sagaire, édit. libr. à Épinal, fournisseurs brevetés de l’Empereur"; right: "Déposé". Bottom: "NAPOLÉON I. (CHARLES-LOUIS,) Empereur des Français, né le 20 Avril, 1808. | EUGÉNIE ( Marie) DE GUSMAN COMTESSE DE TEBA Impératrice des Français, née le 5 Mai 1826. | S.A I. NAPOLÉON. (Eugène-Louis-Jean-Joseph) Prince Impérial, ne le 16 Mars. 1856." Napoleon III [Charles-Louis Napoléon Bonaparte] (French, 1808 – 1873) Eugénie de Montijo [L'impératrice Eugénie] (Spanish-French, 1826 – 1920) Napoléon, Prince Imperial (Napoléon Eugène Louis Jean Joseph Bonaparte] (French, 1856 – 1879) Pinot & Sagaire (Épinal, 1861 – 1888) – enterprise, publisher/printer. Charles-François Pinot (French, 1817 – 1879) – publisher/printer.
  • Engraved title: The | Costume | of the | Empire of Russia | {copper horseman vignette} | signed under: Printed for E. Harding at the Crown and Mitre Pall Mall || English title: COSTUME | OF THE | RUSSIAN EMPIRE, | ILLUSTRATED BY UPWARDS OF | SEVENTY RICHLY COLOURED ENGRAVINGS. | DEDICATED BY PERMISSION TO | HER ROYAL HIGHNESS | THE | PRINCESS ELIZABETH. | LONDON: | PRINTED BY T. BENSLEY, BOLT COURT, FLEET STREET; | FOR JOHN STOCKDALE, PICCADILLY. | 1811. || Paper: thick wove paper, the leaf with “Copper Horseman” watermarked J. Whatman 1808; the French title – Edmeads & Co 1809, E2 – E & P 1807, plates are not watermarked [NYPL: An “1803” copy of The Costumes of the Russian Empire has watermarks from 1796 (W Elgar), 1809 (Edmeads & Co), 1811, 1813 (J. Whatman), 1818, and 1829]. Collation: 4to; (1) engraved title by E. Harding (“Copper Horseman” monument of Peter the Great), (2) English title, (3) French title, (4) Dedication to her Royal Highness the Princess Elizabeth by E. Harding (1803), (5) Contents —> π5 a2 B-S4 T2, all second leaves in all quires but C and T signed “2”, 77 leaves total, unpaginated, plus 72 plates (34.5 x 25.5 cm), stipple and line engravings, hand-coloured, by John Dadley after William Alexander. Binding: 36 x 27 cm, straight-grain green morocco, blind-stamped palmette border withing gilt-stamped palmette border to boards, raised bands decorated in gilt, gilt in compartments, two brown morocco labels with gilt lettering, brown endpapers, 2 additional flyleaves at front and back, AEG. Authorship and artistic work are attributed to Alexander and Dadley, but not signed. 1st edition in 1803 was published by William Richard Beckford Miller (British, 1769 – 1844). Catalogue raisonné: Tooley (1906): p. 151. Contributors: William Alexander (British, 1767 – 1816) – artist, author. John Dadley (British, 1767 – 1817) – engraver. Thomas Bensley (British, 1759 – 1835) – printer. John Stockdale (British, 1750 – 1814) – publisher. Edward Harding (British, 1755 – 1840) – publisher of 1803 edition (author of dedication) Princess Elizabeth of the United Kingdom (British, 1770 – 1840) – dedicatee.
  • Description: Hardcover, 24.5 x 20 cm, collated 4to, modern half crushed Morocco over marbled boards, raised bands, gilt fillets, fleurons, and lettering to spine, top margin gilt; pp.: [4] [1-5] 6-238 [2] [4]; 1-314, total 124 leaves, 20 in-text vignettes in colour after André Collot, b/w tail-pieces; printed on BFK Rives watermarked wove paper; original wrappers absent. Limitation: Print run of 331 copies of which this is copy № 255. Title-page (blue and black): ANDREA DE NERCIAT | FÉLICIA | OU MES FREDAINES | ORNÉ DE VINGT EAUX-FORTES | COLORIÉES A LA MAIN | PAR L'ARTISTE | PARIS | 1928 || Catalogue raisonné: Dutel (1920-1970) № 1556, p. 165. Contributors: André-Robert Andréa de Nerciat (French, 1739 – 1800) – author. André Collot (French, 1897 – 1976) – artist. Another copy of the same title with illustrations after Louis Icart in this collection: LIB-3046.2022.
  • Hand-coloured woodcut on wove paper, 288 x 426 mm; black ink stamp “5305” to reverse. Top centre: "FAMILLE IMPÉRIALE", right: "67." Under the image: "Le Prince Murat." — "Le Prince Impérial." — "L' Empereur et l'Impératrice." — "Le Prince Napoléon." Bottom: "Fabrique d'Estampes de Gangel et P. Didion, à Metz." — "Déposé." Bottom: ms in pencil "1861 – 1868". Publisher/printer: Gangel et P. Didion (Metz); Paulin Didion (French, 1831 – 1879). Characters: Napoleon III [Charles-Louis Napoléon Bonaparte] (French, 1808 – 1873) Eugénie de Montijo [L'impératrice Eugénie] (Spanish-French, 1826 – 1920) Napoléon, Prince Imperial (Napoléon Eugène Louis Jean Joseph Bonaparte] (French, 1856 – 1879) Prince Murat [Lucien Charles Joseph Napoléon] (French, 1803 – 1878) Napoléon-Jérôme Bonaparte [Prince Napoléon] (French, 1822 – 1891)
  • Two prints on one sheet of watermarked laid paper.

    Coupe de la ville de Paris prise du septentrion au midy, depuis la porte St Martin jusqu'à l'Observatoire en passant par l'isle du Palais... Coupe de la ville de Paris depuis la porte St Martin jusqu'à l'Observatoire... Plan des rues comprises dans la direction dela coupe... / Le tout dressé par Philippe Buache... ; Desbruslins, sculpsit.

    Watermark: "IHS" within circle; countermark of "FIN/ DUPUY/ AUVERGNE 1749".

    LOC dates it to 1757. Gallica – to 1742, though the watermark is 1749.

  • Softcover volume, 23.5 x 15 cm, in tan French flapped wrappers with red lettering to front, collated in-4to, in a tan double slipcase 24 x 15 cm with red lettered label to spine, pp.: [1-12] 13-112 [8], total 120 pages, incl. those within wrappers; printed on thick wove paper watermarked “Lafuma Frères”, 5 full-page and 6 half-page illustrations within collation, incl. frontispiece, guard tissue laid in. Title-page (red and black): LE ROMAN | DE | GODEMICHET | ÉPOPÉE | LIBERTINE | ET VÉCUE | composée par un | DESCENDANT D’HERMES | AMI DES MUSES | ÉMULE DE PRIAPE | et illustrée par un | MAITRE DU GENRE | ÉDITÉ POUR LES | AMIS DE L’AUTEUR | A PARIS EN L’AN DE GRACE | MCMXLVIII || Limited edition 200 + XX, this is copy № 175. Catalogue raisonné: Dutel III № 2336. Jean Reschofsky (French, 1905 – 1998) – artist.
  • Hand-coloured chromolithography on wove paper, 600 x 470 mm; black ink stamp “4921” to reverse, horizontal and vertical centrefolds. Image of Napoléon III on horseback, in a frame; lettering under the frame: 34 — Déposé  | NAPOLÉON III | EMPEREUR DES FRANÇAIS. | Lith. de Gangel frères et P. Didion, à Metz. || Gangel frères et P. Didion (Metz) – printer/publisher. Paulin Didion (French, 1831 – 1879)  
  • Quaritch's description: Single sheet (435 x 625 mm); coloured lithograph by Kirchmayr after a drawing by M. Fontana; hand-painted details; signed to lower left ‘M. Fon[tana]’ and to lower right ‘M. Fontana Edit. Prop. S. Giacomo dall’Orio in Isola N°.1481’; lower margin with the title ‘Il bombardamento di Venezia nell’Agosto 1849’ and key; restored tears in many places, especially along upper and lower blank margins, some affecting print; losses to lower left corner, affecting a small portion of the print, ruled border, and key, restored and re-drawn where needed; loss to the upper left corner of blank margin; two small areas of restoration to the centre of upper blank margin; the whole sheet backed; nevertheless a remarkable survival. Exceedingly rare and striking lithograph of Venice as seen from Fusina, depicting the first ever aerial bombardment in history. The bombardment took place in 1849, under the orders of Field Marshal Josef Radetzky (1766–1858), to quell the revolts that had started the previous year during the First Italian War of Independence. This curious and little-known action was the brainchild of Colonel Benno Uchatius, a brilliant young officer in the Austro-Hungarian Artillery. After long months of unsuccessful siege, Uchatius decided to deploy an unusual weapon: a hot air balloon able to bomb the city from above. Having calculated the wind speed and direction and evaluated the requisite dimensions of the hot-air balloon, Uchatius set up a workshop near Mestre, where a group of engineers and craftsmen began to manufacture a balloon equipped with a large wicker basket which could transport two crewmen and approximately one hundred kilograms of small long-fuse devices (metal spheres filled with gunpowder, pitch, oil and five hundred rifle buckshot). The initial trials, however, proved to be a disaster, because the balloon would drift off course, making it impossible to accurately deploy the bombs. Uchatius then hit upon the idea of using several smaller unmanned balloons roped together. These were to be launched over the city and, using the position of the first ‘pilot’ balloon, which was unarmed, the Austrians could calculate the correct fuse settings for the bombs. The ‘bomber’ balloons had a cloth envelope of one hundred cubic metres and a reduced load of about twenty kilograms of ordnance. According to Uchatius’ calculations, the line of balloons, launched from Mestre, would reach the lagoon city in thirty-five to forty minutes, carried by the north-west wind. In July 1849, a first launch was attempted, but when a breeze began to blow from the sea some of the balloons broke the connecting ropes and floated away, while others settled in the water in front of the northern part of the city, where a curious crowd of Venetians observed the failure of the enterprise and commented colourfully on the ‘buffoonery of Radetzky’. Uchatius’ second attempt, which is depicted in this lithograph, was also largely unsuccessful: only a few of the unmanned bomber balloons reached their target, and some even drifted back over the Austrian lines. Uchatius, having accomplished the first ever aerial bombardment, and having designed the first ever military ‘drones’, was forced to abandon the project permanently. Another fascinating aspect of this work is the vantage point used to depict the city of Venice, seen here from Fusina, a very rare viewpoint that makes this piece even more remarkable. We were unable to locate any copies in any institution or bibliography. G. Kirchmayr (fl. mid-19th century) is mentioned at British Museum database as "Lithographer active in Venice; related to Venetian painter Cherubino Kirchmayr (b. 1848)?" However, I was not able to find that name on the print. Not much is known of M. Fontana either.